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Technical Tips

[ Springs | Pickup shoes | Brushes | Tires | Gears | Armatures | Controllers | Power ]
[ Patriot II Tech Tips ]

Editor's Note

In general these rules apply to Stock class HO scale cars (Tyco 440-X2, Life-Like and Tomy Super G plus).  Many of the performace tips described here will have more noticeable difference in faster classes.  The most important tips for Stock class cars pertain to tires and pick-up shoes.

Stock class does not necessarily mean 100 percent stock.  Most commercial tracks allow tire, axle, and pick-up shoe changes, some allow electical parts changes and even 'hot stock' armatures.  Rules vary from track to track.  So if you intend to race at a commercial track make sure you inquire about the rules for the class you intend to race.

 Overview

If you're a beginner, you'll be happy to know that you can easily and inexpensively increase the performace of your box stock (off the shel) slot car.  For just a few dollars and a few minutes time, you can cut your car's lap times significantly.

There are many companies who manufacture great products that you can use to improve every
characteristic of you car's performance.  Check with you local shop for parts from companies like
WIZZARD, BSRT or others.

There are no exact cut and dry answers.  You will find that each car is somewhat unique and
requires a slightly different setup than the next one, but these guidelines will give you a good
baseline to start from.  Don't be afraid to experiment.

 Springs

Pick-up shoe springs -- spring tention is important.  Correct spring tension can make a difference in how your car performs.  By simply stretching (or in some cases compressing) a stock spring, you may find more horsepower. The objective is to get the minimum amount of spring tention for good electrical pickup.  Too much spring tention will work agains the traction magnets and cause deslotting in the corners. 

Motor brush springs -- remember that as your brushes wear down, the spring tension weakens.  The heat cycles that your motor goes through can also weaken your springs, especially in non box stock classes.  Spring maintenance should be a priority in your regular between race checkups. You can purchase hi-performance motor and pickup shoe springs in different thickness' and materials (Copper, Silver plated, etc.).  Always remember to check with your local club as to what changes are allowed.  (approximate cost: $1.25/pair)

 Pickup Shoes

Along with proper spring tension, how your pickup shoes contact the power rails is also critical.  The wear pattern on your pickup shoes should run the entire length of the shoe, not just one small area of it.  Flat (ski type) pick-up shoes are available to increase the contact with track rails.  After replacing your pickup shoes, check them carefully after a few laps.  If adjustment is needed to ensure full length contact, gently and carefully bend the shoe until full contact with the track rail is achieved.  Be careful to make adjustments in very small increments so that you don't kink or twist the shoe.  It's also important that you keep them clean and free of dirt and corrosion.  Pick-up shoes also come silver plated for better electrical conductivity.  Always remember to check with your local club as to what changes are allowed.  (approximate cost: $1.25/pair)
 Motor Brushes

Motor brushes also come in different materials; stock (soft) copper, or harder silver.  For the most part, material does not have a big effect on performance, but the harder silver brushes will wear better.  This is especially important for classes where more spring tention is used to increase performance.

Remember, no matter if you run the softer stock type brushes, or the harder silver brushes, always take the time to keep the gaps in the armature commutator clean and free or worn material.  Taking note as to how hot your motor is running can tell you volumes about yur setup.  A hotter moter can mean tighter (too tight?) brushes, or that your car chassis and magnets are dragging (tires too small).  Gearing can also effect motor tempurature.

(approximate cost: $1.25/pair.  Note: On Super G Plus you must replace the entire end bell assembly -- approximate cost: $4.00 each)

 Tires

This is probably the easiest way to greatly improve your car's performance.  Many manufacturers offer both front and rear hi-performance wheels and tires.  Both front and rear tires are available in different diameters, usually in increments of a two thousandths of an inch.  There are several advantages to these types of wheel/tire assemblies.  As well as the obvious better traction, they also provide for less overall weight and act as a suspension.  Additionally, and just as importantly, it allows for adjustment of the overall ride height.  This no only lowers the center of gravity, but put the traction magnets closer to the track rails for optimum performance.  This is probably the single most important performance cahracteristic.

The ride height will vary from track to track, depending on rail height.  The optimum goal is to lower your car so that it the magnets lightly touch the rails, improving handling, but without creating excess drag.  A good way to check your ride height is to use a felt tip pen or marker to "paint" the bottom of the magnets and chassis.  After marking the chassis, a couple laps will show whether the chassis is rubbing the track rails or not.  The goal is to adjust the tire height until the chassis lightly rubs the rails.  A nice, light even wear mark along the entire length means the tire height is correct.  If not, you can go up, or down, on the front, or rear, as needed.

 
Front Wheels and Tires.

Theoretically, independent front axle assemblies help car performance by allowing the front tires to roll independently through their different radiuses.  Another advantage of independent front axles is that size front tires are available in five thousands of an inch increments for chassis adjustment.

Front tires blanks that can be put on a mandrel and sanded size are also available.  When assembling your  front axle, make sure you check for either excessive horizontal play between the chassis and wheel, or the opposite, friction between the wheel and chassis.  The car must fit cleanly through the club's tech block after mounting tires.   (approximate cost: $6.00 - 8.00 for complete assembly)

 
Rear Wheels and Tires...

After market rear tires are constructed from a lightweight plastic wheel, with a glued-on foam inner tire that is covered with an outer silicone-type rubber.  These tires significaltly increase traction over stock tires or even press-on silicone tires.  Since these tires are so tacky, they are also collect dust and dirt.   Two-sided tape is handy for keeping tires clean.

Tires also come in different degrees of softness (hardness).  Tire softness is indicated by tire color.  Check with you tire supplier for color/softness codes.  Generally, softer tires work better with stock cars on segmented tracks.  Harder compounds may increase performance in non-stock classes where magnetic downforce is stronger and the track may be continuous.

A wheel puller and a wheel press are used to make tire changes easier, faster, and proper.    Always remember to check to make sure that you have proper clearance between the wheel and chassis and that your car fits through the tech  block.   (Average cost: $7.00 - 8.00 / pair)

Gears

Gears are a way to slightly tune your car for the type of track you are racing on.  Gears not only affect how you car responds in tight turns or down long straights, but they can also affect how your car handles.  For example, you can control the amount of tire spin you have coming off the corners if your car wants to spin out when you accelerate.  You can purchase a different range of gear sizes for both the pinion gear (on the armature shaft) and crown gear (on the axle) gears.  Pinion gears are generally available in 7 or 8 teeth.  Crown gears are generally available from 17 to the stock 25 tooth.  A fewer number of teeth on the crown gear will make a car quicker (puchier) but could make it more difficult to handle on short tracks.  More crown gear teeth (tall gears) will have greater top speed and smoother handling a the expense of quickness, especially out of the corners. 
 
Gear ratios
Crown Gear
7 Tooth Pinion
8 Tooth Pinion
17
2.429 to 1
2.125 to 1
18
2.571 to 1
2.250 to 1
19
2.714 to 1
2.375 to 1
20
2.857 to 1
2.500 to 1
21
3.000 to 1
2.625 to 1
22
3.143 to 1
2.750 to 1
23
3.286 to 1
2.875 to 1
24
3.429 to 1
3.000 to 1
25
3.571 to 1
3.125 to 1
Note: Rear tire diameter will slightly affect overall gear ratios. 
 
Advanced tip -- gear mesh and clearance.  A slight amount of play between the pinion and crown gears is desireable, but not enough that they can slip or you'll strip the gears.  On the other hand, gears should not be tightly together either.  Also, look to make sure there's clearance between the tip of the pinion gear and gear boss (or axle), and between the crown gear and chassis.  Friction in any of these areas will greatly slow down your car.   (Average cost: $1 - $4/ea.)

For faster class cars, stronger plastic (polysteel?), and metalic (brass and aluminum) are available for $6.00 to $20.00 dollars each.

 Armatures, also known as "arms" (motor)

By definition, box-stock class cars must use box stock armatures.  In otherwords, there is nothing you can do to improve your armature.  The main thing is to make sure it's kept clean and that the electrical parts are kept dry of any oil.  A slight drop of oil is needed on the shaft, outside of where it passes through the bulkheads only.  You can also check for excessive front-to-back play of the armature.  There are spacers you can purchase to adjust this play.  This will keep the brushes centered on the commature (comm)  when the motor is running.

There are however characteristics that make one stock armature better than the next stock armature.  These characteristics are balance and electrical resistance.  Some race clubs allow what is referred to as a "hot stock" arm.  A hot stock arm is a stock armature which has naturally low electrical resistance and is balanced.  Epoxied may be applied to the wires in the armature to keep them from coming out of balance.

(approximate cost for a replacement stock armature: $3.00 each)

Controllers

Although not a part of the car itself, the controller is another way to tune car performance to specific track conditions.  Controllers come in a different range of electrical resistance measured in ohms, usually 45, 35, 25 and 15 ohm.  These different ohm values in effect change the throttle response.  They don't make a car faster, but change the overall curve of how the power is delivered as you squeeze the trigger.  This can make a car easier to handle, or more responsive.  The lower the ohms, the quicker the response.  Beginners will usually prefer a 45 ohm controller.  A more experienced or sensitive trigger finger will prefer a 35 or maybe even 25 ohm controller depending on the track.  Some expert racers use 45 ohm controllers for stock class.  Lower ohm controllers will be needed for faster classes.

Some contollers also have adjustable ohm control.  Likewise, controllers may also have adjustable "coast" (delays in cutting power to the car when letting off the trigger), and adjustable voltage (power) for over-powered cars or super tight tracks.

(approximate cost: $20.00 & up)

Power

Tracks typically have three types of power supplies; i) AC/DC power pack adapters (that come with race sets) normally one per pair of lanes, sometimes one per lane (better), ii) batteries, 3 six volt deep cycle marine batteries (or a 6 volt and a 12 volt car battery), and iii) an AC/DC dedicated power supply unit.

Type (i) is just fine for stock cars.  It is better to have a dedicated power pack for each lane to minimize power surges as cars from other lanes deslot.  Type (ii) and (iii) are really better for faster classes.  Type (ii) is less expensive but requires more maintenance, type (iii) is safer, requires less maintenance, but can be more expensive.

Wet cell batteries require certain maintenance and safety steps.  Recharging batteries can be dangerous if not done properly!  For a basic diagram how to convert to battery power, go to: tba



Patriot II Tech Tips
Patriot II Pit Talk -- 12/17/98

The gang got together after the first Panther/Patriot II race of the season at the SLOT CAR AND HOBBY CENTER (5642 Olde Wadsworth Blvd, Arvada, 303-431-6065) to swap tips on building these cool racin’ machines.  John Barvik, Butch Bowden, Mark Herold, Scott Johnson, Dan Pierce, Roger Thompson and Eric Wenzel contributed the following:

Electrical
1. limit pickup shoe travel to keep your racer in the slot; bend the shoe at the top of the shoe slot that the front chassis pins go into......be sure to leave enough travel to ensure good contact on those sections of track with a low rail
2. to optimize horsepower, run fairly firm pickup shoe tension (the magnets are stout enough to allow it); these cars come with ‘U’ shoe springs, that can be adjusted by bending the straight sections at the open end of the ‘U’ (these are the sections that make contact with the bulkhead on the car)
3. Check armature balance; static balance can be checked using (2) razor blades mounted edge up in a piece of wood or foam – lay the armature shaft perpendicular to the blades, with the winding between the blades - the best arm is the one that tends not to roll at all, or to roll very slowly to the dreaded ‘heavy-spot-down’ position... remember, armatures must be unmodified in this class so if you have an arm that is spinning instantly over onto a major heavy spot, don’t balance it, just tell everybody it’s yor new #1 arm and wait for the offers to come rolling in...
4. set front-to-rear armature position so that you keep the pinion (small) gear from contacting the crown (large) gear or crown gear boss
5. these cars come with threaded brush barrels; to keep the set screw in the brush barrel from backing out a very small amount of blue Loctite thread sealer can be used, but keep the quantity small to optimize conduction and to ease set screw adjustment later
6. When setting brush tension with new brushes; you should see approximately 1/8” of  the setscrew sticking out of the brush barrel (away from the commutator), this allows a clean, moderate break-in without sacrificing power or brush life.... note that if the commutator doesn’t stay fairly shiny where the brushes are contacting it, you can screw in a little more spring pressure; if this doesn’t help, check to see if a brush spring has collapsed.

Chassis +
7. if the guide pin is loose in the chassis you can experience unpredictable handling; consider thread sealer or a touch of superglue
8. Tyco rear axles can be used in these chassis, allowing quick changeover from other class cars; they may seem loose in the Patriot II, but no axles have been reported popping out yet
Post-Race Pit Talk, cont’d
9. the following tire sizes were used successfully in Arvada:
? front - .345” and .350”
? rear - .454” to .458”
10. run an .062” drill or reamer (gently, by hand) through the armature bushings to be sure they are of sufficient size to keep the arm from binding.

OTHER ACCUMULATED TIPS
11. Debur the front pick up shoe tab.  (This will help eliminate the occasional sticking of the front pickup shoe.  Buff the edges)
12. Replace the original pinion and throw away.  As per car designer the mold was out of round a little.
13. You may experiment with .007 and .008 brush springs to help speed.
14.  When you have a track with good down force you could try to use a heavier pickup shoe spring.  Use .010 double pickup shoe spring will give you better consistency that bending the spring.  The car designer is changing the angle of the pickup shoe spring for future cars.  The current spring is bent at a 38-degree angle and the new spring will be bent at a 25-degree angle for a little more stiffness.
15. When setting up the arm attempt to center the arm in the motor magnet field. Some have even sanded the motor bushing  (up to .010) to accommodate this. Just add another spacer.
16. Some have had good luck running a little stiffer tire than the traditional black sponge of Wizzard.
17.  For the 440 people, most of the set up techniques that worked on that car works on this one too.  The more the car is run the more it can handle the bumps of the plastic tracks.


Ceramic Modified Motor and Gearing hints
Below are some educated guesses about what motors and gears to use on MHOSA tracks:

Passkey - very good stock motor with 8x21 or 8x22 gearing, or a motor with a little more power than stock (5.0 ohm or so)
Carter International Raceway - Stock motor with 7x22 to 8x23
Chris Beyer's Track (original high downforce MaxTraxx) - 35 ga. with 7x23
Adventure (Buck Scorpion) - 35 ga. with 7x23



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Last updated July 11, 1999
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